But for some, it seems like... two or three totally different uh situations so that's why i was wondering because uh for multiple exposure in the camera you have to do it like chronologically uh so that that asks quite a lot of vision in advance i think like you really think your photos out before you take them or

Well, I mean, like, the chronological part is a little bit easier, made easier with 5D Mark III, because you can actually pick one layer, like, earlier that you have shot.

Like, you don't have to do it, like, linearly in a straightaway.

But, like, and the newer, I think, models have, like, given the chance that you can see a sort of, like, live layering on top of it.

Like, I don't have that, so I have to kind of remember all the layers.

Like, so if I start to compose, I don't know.

small figures to the corners of the image I kind of have to just remember how I composed the preview shot but yeah there is a lot of like it's a sort of interesting blend because like sometimes I get an idea beforehand for the multiple exposures so I get some kind of well just a vision before and like think like okay how could I do this how could I pull it off what would I need to make it where should I go to create and then you start to work with it and sometimes it works very often it doesn't like you know there's maybe some small things that why why why you can't pull it off in the in the way that you thought but then there's also that thing that sometimes it comes even a lot better than what you sort of envisioned first because there's this Life sort of creeps in, in a way, and you get these kind of coincidences and happy accidents and all these kind of things that like you start to utilize and it becomes something a lot more interesting than what you pre-visualized.

Was there a certain way you made sure to achieve that? Because also it was for the city of Helsinki, I think, or was it your own project just in collaboration or...?