... a few things that you do, and I s- I'm starting to kind of understand what some of your teams are about, you know? But can you just elaborate on that a little bit? Like, what, what did your team stand for? What did they always do, uh, in terms of culture and just how they are?

Well, um, and, and the culture starts with at the start of the season.

And every time, it's back to the Hal Mitrovich, uh, before a match, we will meet, and I'll have on the whiteboard our keys to the match, and it always starts with fun, respect, excellence, that that's what we're about.

In practice also, we start, start with it.

I don't think you can repeat it too much.

I mean, repetition is really important.

That's why we do drills, whether they're single contact or, or a three contact or six on, uh, six, that things that you kind of wanna do every day.

That's right.

[chuckles]

She's hated me ever since.

Okay? So I took over there for three years and, you know, a- and so I, I look at that as kind of, kind of a lump and then of the Grossmont as well, 'cause I'm, I'm teaching full-time, so you know, you're, you're coaching as well.

And during that time, started my evolution.

I started having the opportunity to coach at Al Scates summer volleyball camps in Southern California, and that's where I got contact with, you know, many top coaches, both collegiate and high school.

So that was kind of a growing time for me because I was a beach volleyball player.

Yes, I played indoor at San Diego State, but I didn't learn everything about teaching or coaching by my participate- participation on that team.

Yeah.