Orlah

Okay, so that's a kasha that they ask.

But pashut says basar b'chalav, a meis averah happened to generate basar b'chalav, and there's never a meis averah that happens to generate orlah.

Orlah just happens every time you plant a tree.

So says Gemara, well, we could, uh, we could ask on that kal v'chomer, because mar la'orlah shekin lo chaysalah shas hakosher.

Orlah has its own chumrah, in that from the moment that pre comes into the world, it was asur.

Whereas basar b'chalav was not asur from the moment it came into the world.

W-what do you mean it wasn't asur from the mo-- So machloket Rishonim.

Meaning we, in order to come up with something that's not an onesh charis, that's not an onesh of charis, and is yet still asur ba hana'ah, I don't need to introduce a new topic of kilei ha'kerem.

So it's not a 200 to 1 ratio, it's a 199 to 1 ratio.

Then the whole thing is going to be aser because kilei haKerem needs 200 in order to become batel, right? Orlah is batel in 100.

Kilei haKerem is batel in, I'm sorry, trumah is batel in 100.

Kilei haKerem is batel in 200.

She can't learn like shas ha-kosher.

Orlah was never permitted.

As soon as, as soon as it took root, as soon as the s- uh, tree started to grow, it was already asur, right? But over here, this was originally mutar.

So since it was originally mutar, whereas when you had the basar here and the chalav up there, and you didn't mix them together, they were originally mutar.

So maybe they shouldn't be asur by hainah.

That's different.

Orlah never was mutar in the first place.

Okay.

Um'ar lah shelo nev da'ba'aveirah asur da'ba'anah, Basar Bechalav she nev da'ba'aveirah, deen shas ba'anah.

If by orlah, the, the fruits are grown the first three years of planting a tree, uh, where an aveirah was not done, if it's, it's asur ba'anah, Basar Bechalav, which, uh, an aveirah was done, is all the more so going to be asur ba'anah.

Meaning, it only becomes Basar Bechalav because you violated the isur bishul.

If you didn't violate the isur bishul, you wouldn't have Basar Bechalav on your hands.

So you violated the isur bishul in cooking the Basar Bechalav.

So, but by orlah, there is no, uh, there, there was no aveirah done to produce orlah.

Every time you plant a tree, it produces, it, uh, at least runs the risk of producing orlah if it grows, uh, fruit in the, uh, the first, in the first three years.

You get, uh, someone asked me an orlah shailah on Shabbos, and you probably don't get too many orlah shailahs.

If anyways for the isur hana'ah, you went to arlah, chametz, and k'lei hakerem, in all of those three, what's the isur? Not only hana, hana achilah.

So w- now that anyways, anyways you needed to come to the orlah.

So [Hebrew] who needed the kodesh kodesh? [Hebrew] Answers the Gem- that why, why don't we say [Hebrew] That was the first [Hebrew].

[Hebrew] So the Gemara says that, that, that, that would not have worked because if you would've brought orlah as a kal v'chomer for isur achilah, I would've countered it from another product that we learned on this daf, on amud alef, which you made an aveira, but it's mutar b'achilah.

I would've said [Hebrew] or [Hebrew] two aveiras, two laver.

[Hebrew] Okay.

So therefore, for isur achilah, we needed a gzeiras shavah.

Now that we see from the gzeiras shavah that it's asur b'achilah, now how do you know b'hana? Again, we had orlah, kal v'chomer, chametz.

Okay, good.

Go back to Orlah.

Very good.

The Kabbalah says, why did you have to jump to a new item? Why did you have to jump to a new item? That's what we thought I was going to do.

Then I can't break it with a cold who.

Now, If that's the case, so E.C., very simple, like I said before, E.C. needed a third item.

E.C. couldn't learn from Orlah and Pesach, because when you learn from Orlah and Pesach, I'm speaking that clearly now.

What we're trying to prove, Isur Hana'a by Basar B'Halaf.

Okay, good.

Go back to Orlah.

Very good.

The Kabbalah says, why did you have to jump to a new item? Why did you have to jump to a new item? That's what we thought I was going to do.

Then I can't break it with a cold who.

Now, If that's the case, so E.C., very simple, like I said before, E.C. needed a third item.

E.C. couldn't learn from Orlah and Pesach, because when you learn from Orlah and Pesach, I'm speaking that clearly now.

What we're trying to prove, Isur Hana'a by Basar B'Halaf.