Onyxia

I think we were all shocked to see the numbers 10, 20, and 40 raised on that presentation slide.

What did you think about the old 40-man Onyx- Onyxia still being a thing?

Not thrilled.

Raiders on Onyxia? That's crazy.

Oh, it's a DK.

You don't need 40.

I think people really like that, uh, like, having those, you know, kind of a, a half size, and it's not perfect in TBC.

I think it's a lot better to do 10/20 and not 10/25.

A death knight.

So, the death knights I see on the ladder tend to be playing Onyxia, Control, Blood, Death Knight kind of thing.

But the best kind of Death Knight out there is Unholy Death Knight, which is quite aggressive.

And honestly, if we mulligan as if it's going to be Onyxia, we're just going to get run over by Aggressive.

So I think we have to prepare for an aggressive Unholy Death Knight, especially given it's the best.

We're having our opening hand.

Yeah, work, work.

So then going back to all these different bot types, the difficulty that you're encountering in a raid is that when you're trying to defeat Nefarian, or even if you're doing Onyxia, and you have to move across the lava and all those different phases as it flies up and down, etc., The bots don't have any of that programming.

Like, that was something that wasn't hard-baked in the game.

Like, the actions of the boss are, but, like, there's no database telling you where to run and in which location, right? So that's why they fail?

What dragon appears in the human guise of Lord Victor Nefarious?

I'm going to say Onyxia.

I

don't know.

Sorry.

Wrong pile.

What other dragon must characters face during the Nefarian encounter in Blackwing Descent? Onyxia.

Okay.

There were in, especially like older classic WoW, some really, really long drawn out dungeons that you could get lost in, have a long exploration in like, you know, upper Blackrock Spire, lower Blackrock Spire, the Black, you know, all of those.

And then there were some end game tiers and raids that were, you enter the boss's lair, you go through a couple of trash mob pulls and there's freaking Onyxia.

right

now there's ready to go

Because think about it.

When he was a kid, you know, Onyxia was ruling by proxy through him.

Uh, he didn't really do anything.

He was stuck in a room, right? Uh, and then he didn't really have a childhood.

It's like Sulfuras or Thunderfury

... piece of wood from an ancient tree in Hyjal, and, and then you bless it with an enchanter who gets blood from Onyxia and then, and then like-

It's, it's Sulfuras or Thunderfury.

It's, it's, uh, you know-

We, we got off topic.

Okay, let's move on.

Um, okay, uh, so this is from Kamori: "How do you feel about attunements to raids? Do you like long narrative attunements like Onyxia or short ones like BWL? Do you want to see more or less attunements in the future? And what storyline with it..." Okay, this is a different question.

Stop, we'll stop there.

trying to do a Control Shaman to, to use, uh, Farseer, Woe, which I maintain is, like, a great card.

But, um, and then trying to do DK, right? Uh, just Onyxia DK, and the clears are not great.

Like, if you, if you dedicate the slots to do Pyro Poison, that's an expensive number of slots.

And if you don't, then there are certain boards you just can't clear.

...

but, like, at least you can clear.

A- Onyxia's Herald or-

Yeah