Only the Family

But conspiracy, all I need is a picture of you two guys together.

OTF was a gang, wasn't it?

I mean, essentially.

I guess they wouldn't have called it that, but I don't know.

So now they go back across the state lines, back to Chicago, like they just did.

They're gonna turn over every needle and haystack that they can.

You think OTF Jam's gonna be a superstar YouTuber like he plans on? He said he's gonna be bigger than 6'9".

He is, but on a PC yard.

Jam.

OTF Jam?

OTF Jam, yeah.

But he had three snitches that cooperated against him, but Jam was the most notorious one.

But they said that he wasn't...

How did I get up with Empire? Ola.

OTF, it was like, Ghazi always fucked with us, you feel me? Kyle Ghazi.

So I think, if I'm not mistaken, that me and Doody Loso and that Von, me and Von did, is what helped.

Caught their attention like that, got

Yeah, you've been through some

shit.

Coming out with OTF.

A lot of niggas would have gave up, man.

How did I get up with Empire? Ola.

OTF, it was like, Ghazi always fucked with us, you feel me? Kyle Ghazi.

So I think, if I'm not mistaken, that me and Doody Loso on that, me and Von did, is what- Caught their attention like that, got

you.

Yeah, you've been through some

shit.

Coming out with OTF.

A lot of niggas would have gave up, man.

They watching you on the TV.

They wearing your c- they wearing the OTF merchandise.

They quoting your lyrics all day.

People emulating his style, his hairstyle, dying they, they dreads gold.

And that was a mistake, bringing her up there by the prosecution, and they s- by, by the de- defendants, and by the defense, and they still won.

Man, they better, they better give Brian Steel and Drew Findling anything they want, man.

I, I think I seen Drew Findling get a OTF chain.

But th- th- this out of con- [laughs] shit crazy as fu- 'Cause you got only, you got only Trey folks sh- chain on.

Back in the day, though, we seen ...

Like back in the day before, like, all the Durk and OTF shit, it seemed like y'all was more ...

He was linking up with a lot of these niggas at one point, or at least wanted to be a part of the rap game and be cool with some of these guys.

So now it's kind of the different approach where he know, like, niggas probably need him.

We, we know that shit.

What was that?

Yeah, or niggas gonna be saying the OTF niggas pressure So niggas ain't saying it because of that and ain't no shit like that Because we finding out through this case we starting to see like I guess OTF niggas going to Savannah and doing a whole bunch of shit According to what the court documents and she was saying we didn't know all that shit was going on So we seen like oh some niggas really did have it out.

So when you seen and catching a little shit Some of that shit.

Despite the acquittal, Durk remains in federal custody and is scheduled to stand trial again on October 5th in a separate RICO/racketeering case.

Prosecutors accused Durk and OTF of operating a criminal enterprise connected to multiple violent crimes, including the 2022 killing of Stephon Mack in Chicago.

Durk faces racketeering related murder and firearms charges and could face up to life in federal prison if convicted.

Wow.

So we gonna move on.

Man, let's get into, you know, something that I know that's close and dear to you, and that's, uh, you know, with the, uh, with the OTF Lil Durk situation.

And, uh, I wanna say that in a interview that I did with you maybe six months ago, you said, out of your mouth, you said, "Lil Durk gonna beat this shit like Rocky." What made you so confident?

I already knew.

Yeah, he gonna have a rough time, man, uh, being where he, where he's headed to.

It's gonna be a real, real rough time for him.

You know, um, how significant in this moment do you think it is for Durk, you know, OTF, and hip hop as a whole now that he beat this case? Like, what do you, what do you think it's like as a whole? What does this say for hip hop?

I mean, it's a good look for hip hop right now.

It's, they, they calling it Durk, Durk Banks gang.

And the reason they doing that is because they couldn't do these new charges under OTF because the people that allegedly got rid of Stephon Mack, I believe his name is-

Yeah

... was not OTF.

And a couple of those guys that was involved with a couple of these other crimes were not OTF.

So the federal government-

Right

... was in a situation where they couldn't put it like it was OTF 'cause it's too many holes in that.