Olúfẹ́mi O. Táíwò

No, there's some Afro-Germans, yeah

... uh, the, I think that, that basically we need to figure out a way in which we don't do what like, uh, Olufemi Taiwo would talk about in terms of like the elite capture of these, of this type of discourse.

But that's so hard, right? We live in a narrowing discourse community where there is everything else and then there is like kinda like the purveyors of the media and everything like that.

And every day we lose more jobs, right? And so, and as we lose more jobs, we become more and more elite, right? [chuckles] And so, uh, I'm not sure if it's gonna happen for you and me in our positions, but I do hope that everybody else just drowns us out.

Totally.

I mean, I, I-- In, in that chapter, I, you know, I lean on a lot of greats like, uh, Olufemi Taiwo and Keeanga-Yamahtta Taylor, and it's...

And, and Keeanga, you know, o- o- one of the quotes in the, in the book, you know, uh, o- one of the things I, I, I've learned from Keeanga-Yamahtta Taylor is that, is that, you know, identity, identity politics at its roots are meant to support people to enter into the struggle together and teach each other about their different issues, the different ways that the system impacts them.

Uh, there's like all sorts of choices we need to make and things we need to adjust for, not just inside our movements, but, but also outside of our movements for h- how we fight and what we're fighting about, um, and, and how to build movements that bring everybody with them, um, how to fight systems in a way that doesn't leave anybody behind.