Olivia Plotnick

So it's a very open but also sensible arrangement.

So when these CSPs use these models, it's hosted at those CSP side.

So there's no concern of, say, Chinese companies taking hold of the data or whatever.

But then there's also the benefit of setting up your own models, taking control of your own models, as opposed to if you work with companies like Anthropic, it's a closed source and you have to really sacrifice and give up some of your data autonomy.

But in the end, we didn't get a clearance to visit.

Obviously, it's pretty sensitive areas.

But we did manage to bring some of these people out in a seminar hosted by local government to basically share their observations and understandings of the space industry.

And not just Chinese space industry companies, but also companies from Singapore who have a collaboration with some of the Chinese companies.

It's eye-opening to go and see what's happening in Shenzhen or even Hong Kong or even in Northern cities, her city is like a, you know, it's the head of a, it's a, the main city in a province, but it's, you know, it's a small city compared to like Beijing and Shanghai, but it has like two new subway lines.

And just seeing that and how actually the people are responding to that, right? Like, I interviewed Olivia Plotnick, who is an American from Oregon living in China.

She's been living there the last 10 years.

She's like a brand specialist.