Oliver Stone

Yeah.

The House of the Rising Sun type from Oliver Stone's documentary.

Yeah, from Oliver Stone's

documentary.

And like there was a book and that guy was like, I can prove there's a whole plot.

Because of the Vietnam veterans and my family, I very much wanted to play that part.

Ten years before that, I auditioned for a movie called Platoon that Oliver Stone directed.

And I think I was close to getting a part in Platoon, but then Oliver's money kind of fell off for a while.

And so nothing happened and life went on.

And some of the things I wouldn't understand as well as I do now.

Why did these certain things happen and all that kind of stuff? But anyway, if you're a fan of King Arthur stories, to me, this is one of the better ones that mixed – Kind of like Oliver Stone's The Doors mixes what really happened with The Doors with the public's perception.

And I think there's a lot of that in this.

He wanted to make an epic, like, romantic throwback to older films.

Yeah.

In Oliver Stone's screenplay, he was a reporter.

Yeah.

Interesting.

I want to get to that.

Okay.

So in 1987, Jerry Weintraub's company gets the rights from Paramount and Oliver Stone starts campaigning for to write and direct it and we're talking about the oliver stone that has just one just one best director at the oscars for a platoon okay and so he can do whatever he wants and he wants to do evita because he loves the stage play so he flies to argentina and he's meeting with president carlos uh namem and uh and madonna has a meeting and also

it's still 86

I think probably we're getting more and more interested in it, although there are certain periods where you might see an ebb and a flow in pop culture that the 90s, for example, were very, very strongly fascinated with conspiracy theories.

Like you had the Oliver Stone film, JFK, and then The X-Files comes along, and then suddenly on TV you have a bunch of other conspiracy-oriented shows there.

And then when 9-11 happens, because at the core of conspiracy stories is the suspicion of the powers that be, of the government, of business, any kind of institutions of power.

But With the 9-11 attacks and then you had that wave for several years of super patriotism, suddenly you saw less of the conspiracy entertainment because now we're not questioning the government and the military.

Up until recently, there have been the tallying of roughly about 200 or so conspiracy theories about the JFK assassination.

Just about everyone has been blamed for it by somebody.

So Oliver Stone is taking some of the really big ones there and he's tossing it all into the blender that basically everybody is responsible for Kennedy's assassination except for Lee Harvey Oswald.

book here as well.

You know, there's a power to kind of create a conceptual horizon.

You know, like in the Oliver Stone movie, Natural Born Killers, you know, like Woody Harrelson says, he says to the reporter, like, media is like weather, but it's man-made weather.

Like, that's actually really poignant.

Okay, and like I stipulate that, that's very true.

I really like National Board of Killers.

It's a really dope movie.

I try and turn people on to it because it's not just like... gross Quentin Tarantino stuff or like Oliver Stone, like preachy stuff.

It's really, really insightful and it's really subversive in some ways, but the guy who's, uh, like the Starkweather, uh, like, Dillinger character, you know, Woody Harrelson, when he's talking to, like, the media guy, he's like, you know, he's like, he's like, media's like the weather, but it's man-made weather.

With his dog Denzel ever by his side, today he's back in the gym, enjoys the pub with mates and is seeking new challenges.

Of his injuries, in a letter to himself earlier this year, parodying the words of Al Pacino in the 1999 Oliver Stone movie Any Given Sunday, Rob wrote...

Life's just a game of inches, so stay in the fight, and remember, you're never alone.

As is traditional, we started at the beginning.

So nothing is ever written in stone.

Oliver Stone.

Nothing is ever written in stone in the case.

And no matter how smart, no matter how logical, no matter how sane people may seem, things may seem.