Mm.

Yeah, and you know that the hardest person to look at is yourself.

And so for me as a man, I've had to really focus on looking at me.

What makes me tick? What have I inherited from my father, my grandfather, my great-grandfather, the grandfathers that I don't even know? What is that energetic pattern that I've inherited, and how is it affecting me in my beliefs of this world? And is that small little boy Oliver inside able to stand his truth and his power, or i- or is that small little boy scared? And I think we see so many men that are struggling with that dichotomy, or that they've gotta put up this front, this veneer of, "Everything's good.

Look at how wonderful I am.

Look at my strong physical body.

Look at my beautiful house, my beautiful wife, my fantastic job, my kids." But inside there is a, a very small, very broken person trying to speak their truth, trying to figure it out.

How do you work with those energies? How can you recommend someone to work with them or be at least discerning and aware that they're there?