Oleg Taktarov

So I would say just from...

And, and then even from that time, like when I first got involved in Sambo in the late '90s, like my first seminar, I was already grappling, but my first Sambo seminar was in 1998 with Oleg Taktarov, uh, and that was at the, uh, Gene LeBell...

I was competing at the Gene LeBell World Grapplers Challenge in Toronto, and uh, and uh, you know, Oleg was teaching a seminar there.

And so that was my first real introduction with some, you know, with a, with a Sambo person, with a Sambo coach.

Yeah.

I also like Oleg Taktarov.

I don't remember.

The Russian Bear.