Old Mutual Limited

We have Discovery Bank.

We have other players as well looking, uh, Old Mutual as well.

Now, how, in your view, is the... what is the moat at the heart of, um, GoTime bank in building its defense and growing its base? And you spoke around daily habits and engagement with consumers.

consumers.Iratxe, that's a fantastic question.

And joining me for a special episode are two experts in the Kenyan investment market.

We've got Joel Correa, Head of Business Development, Retail and Private Wealth at Old Mutual Investment Group in Nairobi.

And also Winnie Koech, Head of Wealth and Investment at Stambik Bank in Kenya.

So thank you both so much for joining us this week.

Welcome back.

Today on the podcast, we're looking at why Kenya is becoming more attractive for investors.

Joel Correa from Old Mutual is still with me alongside Winnie Coet from Stanbic Bank Kenya.

I want to talk to you both a bit now about the sectors that are the most interesting.

17 after 8, let's move on to something else entirely.

In conversation with Old Mutual Corporate, unpacking the thinking behind this year's Old Mutual Thought Leaders Forum.

Thought Leaders Forum, of course, asks what leaders are choosing to do differently to create balance.

better retirement outcomes.

As I've said a number of times at the age of 52, these things are front of mind for me.

And I thought no better time than this to unpack why this year's forum is moving beyond talk.

Blessing Utete, we've spoken to Blessing before, the commercial head, the commercial executive head at Old Mutual Corporate.

Always a pleasure to have you on the show.

We've spoken about first round.

But there are a host of others, particularly, I think Sunlum was in there, Old Mutual in there, Discovery in there too.

Yeah, and insurance.

I think the standout probably for me, but all of those companies released really solid numbers.

But for a company like Discovery, for example, they've really expanded the product set and they've focused very heavily on the ecosystem.

And they've also expanded their addressable market to outside of South Africa.

And if you look at a company like Old Mutual, for example, they're insuring people who weren't insured before.

They're also expanding their product set And I think that even in the banking space, we've actually rolled out banking products and insurance products to areas of the market that were previously underserved.

Joined in studio, made his way through the traffic, and I bless him for that.

Blessing Utete, the commercial executive head for Old Mutual Corporate.

I don't think we need a full-on history blessing.

Welcome, but what is the Thought Leaders Forum?

around how people actually then can be put in the system to save for better outcomes.

Thank you very much.

Blessing Utete, the Commercial Executive Head for Old Mutual Corporate.

We will be there with...

Old Mutual and WAPA who runs the event.

We're going there to tell the story of the communities.

That was what I asked was, please can we come through off the back of the interview that we did with the folk of Winston going around there just to see the impact races do have on communities.

I get goosies and a frog in the throat.

It's heavy.

What I'm hoping we can put together, we have no commercial link to Old Mutual or WAPA for that matter anyone that's involved in that race and what I would like to put together at the end is a short video that they can play it's like a board meeting or an expo gathering of old mutuals you know execs if not the execs then the brand managers and like you think you're making a difference you've got no idea and then cut to what i believe we're going to see because my i know these guys mean well like i've met enough um corporates in my life to know like a lot of it is tick box and every now and again you meet enough of them where it's like they really believe in making a difference this isn't a tick box exercise people are there I know how in it they are across other activations of theirs as well other sponsorship deals that they hold they're on their box they're with their teams racing they're in this thing they're with that community and I think even still i don't think at scale people understand like the difference you're making is humongous yeah like if there's one sponsorship that you'd never want to pull based on impact it's this one and that's my own personal i'd like to put that together and see where that lands i mean we'll publicize that video if we can if we can get it right I'm extremely moved to the fact that we can be there to even tell it, let alone write it.

If I wasn't writing it, that would be fine.

you'll see what you've seen here amplified by an insane measure.

And Old Mutual opened their arms and welcomed us and said, we'll bring the whole crew.

So, here we are.

Halley Gates, Beg