Ochu

Um, at Ohkay Owingeh, we also have a myth of emergence, and, and it's interesting that we were led out of the darkness by two women, the White Corn Maiden and Blue Corn Mother, so we also emerged vertically.

Their term or their definition in Tewa is we emerged when Nambi Quio, our Mother Earth, was Ochu, or ripe.

So the world was ripe, and we're living in the ripe world.

And, um, when I say it's interesting that it was two women because, um, you know, many of the Pueblos have adopted the patriarchal-