And how about for you, Ocean, someone that, you know, I know there was someone that you met recently at a trade event that kind of blew your mind, but what about you in terms of people?

Yeah, I mean, there's so much people that we have met that's been like a big impact.

And the one you're talking about, he's like one of the ink masters.

That was pretty sick of the tattoo show.

That was crazy.

If you look at my... instagram and stories you definitely know who i'm talking about and see their work but it's that was sick um but yeah it's crazy to see like the people you meet and the connections like deshaun saying that like how we met him at the beginning that was awesome like way back then and he did come out to my first fashion show which i was pretty sick and then i remember the night before um I picked them up, and then we're going to the studio to think about the songs, choices, and everything.

And that was pretty rememberable, too.

But what's the conversations going on for you? Like how do you keep your head in the game? How do you stay dedicated or motivated or inspired when things go wrong?

[laughs] All right? Um, and Ocean, Ocean Baker, share with us what it is that you do, why you do it, and what, what is that soul piece that making that mission for you.

Yeah.

So what I do, I have my own clothing brand called, uh, Nostukashu Ink, which means good feelings and nostalgia, which I really wanted people to have that feeling when they wear my clothes, and that's why I chose that name specifically to fit what I was going for.

And, uh, what I do is really put the two passions of mine, art and streetwear, into one line to showcase, um, both things I've, you know, I've always wanted to do and really wanted to showcase into the world.

And, uh, to keep me going and keep me motivated was really seeing people, like, enjoy it, and like, out in the day, and randomly see somebody who's actually wearing it.

So that's, that's definitely what keeps me going and keeps me motivated, and, um, that's, that's what I, I really wanted my goal to be.

Who do you look for, and what do you look for, and what's important for you in terms of who you're hiring to help you do your work?

Yeah.