Oberalm

And today, we have a good one.

Um, an, an LED, um, pioneer in Europe, uh, a manager, an entrepreneur, um, an ex, uh, ex-CEO of, uh, Lo- Loxone, and, uh, currently heading the LED company from Oberalm, near Salzburg, um, Ronald Schiefer.

Uh, Ronald, thank you for joining us.

Thank you, Satya.

... that, uh, had to be, um, that had to look like they were from 1920s and had to be unshatterable and so on.

And, um, you know, tell me more.

I mean, I think it's fascinating that, you know, a company from Oberalm got this project.

Mm-hmm.