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Because this isn't about, um, preventing, uh, commercial opportunity.

This is about actually going fundamentally back to what the city's supposed to be about, which is a vibrant, dynamic place, not empty and hollow, and actually a place where people want to come, uh, you know, have essential services like New Zealand Post there, uh, and, and, you know, live their lives.

Okay.

All right.

Mail is delivered by a person who bothers to carry it to somebody.

There's no New Zealand Post.

There's no couriers.

We live in a society, don't we, where we just, if I can't get that product the next day in my mailbox, at my address, in my home, it's disappointing.

All the talk was of the regulation.

In actual fact, a friend of mine when I was in Auckland at IBM had sent me a book which I've still got which was a summary of what was those days called the business round table about the regulation of producer boards and there was a section there on dairy which I'd read and that was a real signal to me as well having seen what had happened and particularly in the banking sector, but also telecommunications, the likes of the post office becoming New Zealand Post, all those sorts of things were happening during those 80s and early 90s.

So if you were going to be affected, you were better to be right in it and wide awake to, you know, what threats and opportunities that might create the regulation of the producer boards.

It's a major issue.

So I said, okay, look, bye.

Do we need the CEO of New Zealand Post on the phone? Yes, we do need the CEO of New Zealand Post on the

phone.

Well, he joins us now.

Who is the CEO of New Zealand Post? Can you give that a red hot Google? Because I'm shooting them an email straight after we finish talking.

You just find their email.

You just find their name and then put at nzpost.com or whatever it is.

So she was lovely.

Anyway, so then I finally got a job in New Zealand Post in Takapuna, so it was quite close.

Oh, like at the, like sorting mail?

Yeah.

Yeah.

She's like, "Yeah, yeah, yep." And then, um, sends me the link to go to NZ Post, and you do that, and you put in your credit card details, and they, um-

Oh, no, do you do that?

... give you the 80 bucks to, you know-

Autopilot

... yeah, of course.

NZ Post, of course she's picking this up.

Like, of course.

to taste i mean some people would rather listen to music and some people would rather listen to news no

no that's a good question um so let's imagine there was such an august independent body it'd have to be really well funded um because the reality is is that it's not cheap doing high quality political polls and and one agency can't typically afford, be it Radio New Zealand or Television New Zealand or NZ Post or The Post rather, can't afford to run polls in this country with the frequency that we need.

But yeah, I mean, theoretically, there is merit to what you're saying, Kerry, that if there was one totally independent polling agency, but that's That's a theory.

In practice, it doesn't seem to be working too badly.

It's like

New Zealand Post.

We're going back to those ways.

So Joker gets to New Zealand, starts to set the place up.