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Sep 14, 2026
Understanding Pain with Dr. Rachel Zofness
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57:23Forrest HansonHOST
So here's what I mean by that.
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57:24Forrest HansonHOST
If you look at number needed to treat for all of these different interventions, what you typically find for them is that the NNT is around four or five or six or seven.
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57:35Forrest HansonHOST
So what that means is that relative to placebo, which is a huge topic here that we haven't dug into yet, but I'm hoping to, each of these interventions, something like Cymbalta, which is an SNRI, it's sometimes prescribed for depression and anxiety disorder, but it's also prescribed for chronic pain, uh, including chronic musculoskeletal pain, fibromyalgia, all of that.
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57:55Forrest HansonHOST
About four in 10 people on this ne- uh, hit 50% pain relief.
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58:36Forrest HansonHOST
Big problem, one in six people also stop taking the drug because it gives them stomach distress that is so intense that they don't want to be on it anymore.
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58:44Forrest HansonHOST
So this is not great for the medication side of the spectrum.
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58:47Forrest HansonHOST
Problem is that for, like, CBT for chronic pain, as near as I can tell, NNT is about one in four.
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58:53Forrest HansonHOST
So it's better, but it's not great, and a lot of those effects tend to go away over time.
Sep 11 2026 This Week in Cardiology
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12:24John MandrolaHOST
The thesis was that the diagnosis of anatomic disease led to more statin use.
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12:30John MandrolaHOST
But when you look at Scott Hart, the delta in statin use was really small, and if it was due to statins, you'd have to posit an NNT of about 3 for the statins, which is hugely higher than what we know statins do.
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12:46John MandrolaHOST
So if you can explain why Scott Hart showed that CTCA was an event reducer, But CTCA in a higher risk group of patients in this trial did nothing.
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12:56John MandrolaHOST
I'm all ears.
Dr. Simon Thornley - 'Epidemiological update on the nutrition road'
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11:09Simon ThornleyGUEST
And of course, these medicines like Wegovy and Ozempic are given all sorts of statistics to justify their use, and often you'll see relative benefits such as a nineteen percent benefit in terms of all-cause mortality or a zero point four four percent absolute risk reduction, not of-- uh, not so often used.
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11:34Simon ThornleyGUEST
Um, that translates to an NNT of about two hundred and twenty-five patients treated for four years to prevent one death.
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11:41Simon ThornleyGUEST
And it, it's a lot of treatment, but it sounds okay compared to playing lotto.
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11:48Simon ThornleyGUEST
Um, but, uh, what I've come across is that actually the area between these two curves is the average survival difference, and that actually works out to be a week for four years treatment, which is fairly modest.
PRAGUE-26: Early Catheter-Directed Thrombolysis for Intermediate-High-Risk Pulmonary Embolism | S01E57
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19:53speaker_1HOST
The absolute risk reduction, the actual difference between 6.8% and 0.7% is 6.1 percentage points.
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19:59speaker_1HOST
So walk us through the number needed to treat the NNT.
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20:02speaker_2HOST
Right.
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20:03speaker_2HOST
The number needed to treat is the most practical metric for a bedside clinician.
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20:07speaker_2HOST
It tells you exactly how much effort you have to expend to get one positive result.
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20:10speaker_2HOST
You just take 100 and divide it by the absolute risk reduction of 6.1.
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20:14speaker_1HOST
which gives us an NNT of roughly 16.
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20:17speaker_2HOST
Correct.
S01E55 | Video Laryngoscopy in the OR: The COVALENT Trial
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13:31speaker_1HOST
It is.
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13:32speaker_1HOST
So we naturally wanna look at the number needed to treat, or NNT.
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13:35speaker_2HOST
The clinical bottom line.
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13:36speaker_1HOST
Right.
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13:37speaker_1HOST
The data tells us you would need to use a Macintosh-style video laryngoscope on roughly 21.5 patients to achieve one additional first-pass success compared to just using a direct laryngoscope.
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13:48speaker_1HOST
Okay.
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13:49speaker_1HOST
For the hyperangulated blade, that NNT drops down to about 10.7.
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13:55speaker_2HOST
Which honestly, in the realm of clinical trials, an NNT of roughly eleven to prevent a procedural failure is quite impressive.
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Oxford Handbook of Medical Statistics (Oxford Medical Handbooks)
Aug 24 · 6 Mentions
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22:32speaker_2UNKNOWN
It provides zero practical context.
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22:34speaker_2UNKNOWN
This is why the concept of number needed to treat, or NNT, is the ultimate tool for a practicing nurse or physician.
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22:41speaker_3UNKNOWN
NNT translates abstract probabilities into a tangible clinical reality.
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22:46speaker_2UNKNOWN
Yeah.
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22:46speaker_2UNKNOWN
The text highlights a trial treating pregnant women for gestational diabetes-
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22:55speaker_3UNKNOWN
Okay.
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22:55speaker_2UNKNOWN
The absolute risk difference between the treatment and control groups was point zero nine three.
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23:00speaker_2UNKNOWN
To calculate the NNT, you divide one by that absolute risk difference.
Episode 433: 440. CME Understanding Medical Stats
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19:07Andrew BiltHOST
It just truly is what it is, and you have to be able to understand that in order to have a conversation with your patients and have a shared decision-making conversation.
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19:17Andrew BiltHOST
In order to calculate the a- NNT, you need to know the absolute difference.
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19:22Andrew BiltHOST
The absolute difference is just subtracting the two numbers.
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19:25Andrew BiltHOST
So let's do some practice.
12 MINS LATER
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31:08speaker_1UNKNOWN
Relative risk can sound amazing even when the benefit's small.
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31:14speaker_1UNKNOWN
Read the article.
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31:16speaker_1UNKNOWN
Calculate the NNT because shared decision-making means giving patients numbers they can see.
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31:25speaker_1UNKNOWN
Who was studied? Inclusion and exclusion.