Now and Then

But you liked, you liked him?

Uh, um, yeah, like "Now and Then," "Casper," mm.

[chuckles] "Casper"? He's in-

I was-

He was probably everyone's first crush when he starred in Casper.

He also starred in movies like Now and Then.

And then he went from the man of our dreams to the man of our nightmares when he starred in the Final Destination franchise.

Now he's in the new freeform Disney Plus series, Coven Academy, where he plays a teacher who's advising a school of witches and warlocks, shaping what I'm sure are going to be the new generation of heartthrobs.

I mean, it makes me think you were a little younger than her, but what was it like to be a star at that time in the

90s at a young age? For me, it was a little different.

For me, I would come down and I would shoot a movie like Casper, Now and Then, whatever it was, and then I would go back to Canada.

And because we didn't have the internet, I didn't get to see how things were evolving.

Jeremy London, Jason Lee, Claire Forlani, Shannen Doherty, Michael Rooker, Ben Affleck, Ethan Suplee, Joey Lauren Adams, Stan Lee, Jason Mewes, Kevin Smith.

In theaters at the time, Dead Presidents, The Scarlet Letter, Get Shorty, Now and Then, and Leaving Las Vegas, which makes this movie feel super old [laughs] now.

But-

'95 was a good time at the movies

That's what I think, yeah.

And, um, but then you also, you also pres- you wrote in two, the other being Thora Birch's character in Now and Then.

Yeah.

Two very different pictures of sort of teenage anxiety and coming into a part in your life where childhood is being exchanged out in one way or another, in a perhaps more outlandish way in the form of Wetlands, in a more kind of like melancholy sort of scrapbook way in the form of, um, Now and Then-

Mm-hmm

...

But I think the, the through line that I see between the two of them is the, this sort of hunger for life and for things that when you're younger feel like everything is ahead of you, and some things are forbidden to you because of your age, or you live at home with your parents, or it would be illegal, or whatever [laughs] the reasons are.

But this sort of...

Golddiggers: Secret of Bear 7, shout out.

A Fair Game Now and Then, Home for the Holidays, Powder, Ace Ventura: Nature Calls, Get Shorty, Copycat, Where is Ace Ventura?

One.

Uno.

Yep.

Yep, one.

Uh, Get Shorty's two, Copycat is three, Powder is four, Home for the Holidays is five, Now and Then is six, Fair Game is seven, Eight is seven, Vampire in Brooklyn is nine, and Secret Golddiggers-

There's a new Vampire in Brooklyn

Yeah

... is how I feel about Demi Moore's lipstick in Now and Then.

It is just that perfect '90s, like, coffee brown with like a little bit of a purple hue.

Mm.

wait how exciting well just so you know when you became friends with her Nicole was like elated because she had such a crush on you growing up and she would talk she used to write Mrs. Sawa in her notebook I mean who did it

though who didn't and I feel like you know like watching like Now and Then Casper like all the things growing up like me and my girlfriends we would kiss the TV screen when your face was on

stop

yeah like that's what we all did

Oh, I love that.

Yeah.

And then Now and Then.

Now and Then was iconic.

Yeah.

She was in Sleepless in Seattle, Uncle Buck, Now and Then, and many others.

I haven't seen much of what she did as an adult.

She did that Transparent show.

yeah

so in 1995 so nine years after stand by me this film was done called now and then and it's often considered to be the female version of stand by me and Now and Then is one of my favourite films.

You have

said this.

We need to do it.

Yes, it's really good.

And for some reason I related to Now and Then way more than I related to Stand By Me.

And I think it's because female friendship... and you're talking about empathy, emotional intelligence, it's just there.