Northern Arizona Lumberjacks men's basketball

I went Hawaii to, uh, um...

No, that was, I went Hawaii to Northern Arizona, uh, as the assistant coach.

Oh.

So I was a restricted earnings coach at Hawaii, so who would take the job of, uh, uh, making, the rule, the NCAA made a rule that you could only make $12,000, so I was making, uh, uh, $12,000, uh, in Hawaii.

do?Yeah, I think I, I knew.

I think once I got into it, I wasn't sure once I went to Santa Barbara once, but once I did that, I knew, and it was like there was...

I, and I think about it now, um, you know, we went from, I went to Northern Arizona.

It was, that was the, that was the worst, they were, I think we were 280 out of 290 or something in, in, uh, uh, the school's, uh, record, uh, over the last decade or 20.