North American Soccer League

And you also mentioned, Justin, in the middle of all that, I did start my Freedom Sports Entertainment Agency back with another agency called Playbook Management International.

We were doing a lot of work in NASL soccer when they were Division II.

And we had like an outsourced embedded revenue generation model where we took over the ticketing and sponsorship side of the business.

But right around that same path, it started happening in college athletics.

Keep in mind, he was an assistant under Bob Bradley.

It was his first foray into MLS proper after some fine work in the NASL and the USL in the second division rung.

Um, went and left for the Vancouver Whitecaps, stayed for two and a half years, came back as an assistant for Steve Cherundolo when he was appointed, then when Cherundolo left, uh, was promoted.

One of a couple of head coaches who was promoted sort of from the bench, uh, after a coach left, along with Minnesota United's Cam Knowles.

I think that, you know, there have been a number of things that have happened to arrest the progress and the sort of the re the growth and the rejuvenation of the name.

You know, first it was the the way the NASL collapsed, NASL 2.0 collapsed.

And, you know, sort of what happened, the pull out of.

of the people who were involved.

Yeah.

Well, it's certainly a lot of those MLS teams that have expanded into the league came from somewhere else.

Lots of USL teams or NASL teams or whatever.

Like, I think, you know, again, that that thing of like the club existing as its own universe and then everything else is sort of extraneous important because you need other clubs to play.

And on the flip side, you've got guys like Christian Ramirez, who...

A lot of people sort of doubted and a lot of people didn't give credit to, and that is dating back to the old NASL days that Ramirez maybe wasn't getting a lot of credit, but he just scored goals.

Everywhere he went, he just scored goals.

And I'm kind of getting the sense that Caldera is the same way.

So I feel like I want to throw it back.

I want to really throw it back.

Let's go back to the 2012 NASL playoffs.

The soccer bowl, the first leg of the soccer bowl.