Norman Jay

There was a bunch of DJs there.

Um, Norman Jay, Brian, um, Norman, um, Thad, um, yeah, bunch of people DJing there.

And, uh, I think Femi from Young Disciples as well played there at some point, and all the rest of the stuff.

Um, and then there was kind of this yearning to do our own thing, because it was difficult to kind of, um, make a difference.

You know, it, it, it kinda had to be that way to kind of go out on a limb, have your own party, have your own event.

And, um-

Was, was there a very obvious, like, hierarchy then at that party? 'Cause Norman Jay's Norman Jay, isn't he, you know?

Um, yes and no, because I think every ...

I got my first residency, and that, because I was buying a lot of records, I met a guy called Patrick Lily- Lily, who had a, he had a straight party called High on Hope.

They played a lot of New York house and disco with Norman Jay and Ricky Morrison, and I used to go there with Jeffrey Hinton and Princess Julia, and that's how I met Patrick, through them.

And then he said, "Oh, I'm gonna do a gay version of High on Hope." And I said, "Oh, I, I've got lots of disco records." And then one day I was around at Jeffrey and Julia's flat, and he'd rang up.

They were like, "Oh, Patrick wants to speak to you." And so I was like, "Oh, hello." And he was like, "I'm starting that part- that party.

Definitely.

And, and I was, there was so much to learn about music and the history of disco and the history of clubs as, and stuff, and so I wanted to know everything.

And I, you know, people like Norman Jay taught me a lot as well, um, DJ Harvey, um, f- from the UK side of things.

But, you know, I can remember Francois Kervorkian coming to DJ for us, and he told me about some records, and he had them in his bag, and he just gave me them.

And I was the idiot, aged 18, that had to basically say that to everybody.

Like all good nicknames, because I was doing that, like the rest of the posse, which is Femi Femme, Norman J,

and a few others.

I was going to say

Norman J.

They started calling me Judd.

I mean, I was the first DJ in Ibiza to have their own branded night that was named, dare I say it, after the DJ in question.

Then it was a grey area, now it would be unequivocally something that would get you banged up.

Norman

J's high on hope, but Digwell's Norman Jay is a very important DJ in this whole thing.

He

really is.

And I'd go and listen.

So...

One of those was Norman Jay, actually.

He went to Norman Jay's house and went, Norman, you've got to be on there, you've got to be on there, blah, blah, blah.

Yeah.

Norman Jay's High on Hope-

Yeah

... at Dingwalls.

But-

Norman Jay's a v- a very important DJ in, in-

Yeah

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