Norm Eisen

Maybe not.

I was told that the week of inauguration, maybe even the day of, while everybody's having the party for Trump's reelection and he's back in the office, Norm Eisen was in the D.C. law firms where all the former Biden and Obama lawyers are now working.

And they were charting how they were going to...

They get majorities back, execute subpoena after subpoena after subpoena.

But there's many other players in it.

There's these 501c3 organizations, Norm Eisen, you know, you've mentioned this guy a lot.

All these characters and their recurring characters, the same people appear over and over again.

Anyway, all of these things came together and have come together and are still together.

And how can it be? And by the way, I would add into the lawfare machine the judges and the judicial system.

But what do you think is coming? What's coming if the Democrats get control of oversight? What's coming in the next five years in your in your mind? What what would you not so much predict, but what would you caution about?

going to get worse that that's that's sort of the the the main thing here the main takeaway because they don't care um when you look back at the russia hoax then you look at these prosecutions the indictments against trump uh between 21 and 24 that whole period well guess what the lawfare activists were openly out there advocating for this stuff they were putting out the papers for uh you know the the norm eisen guy you mentioned brookings all these other people they were putting out papers this is how you go after trump this is how you prosecute trump this is how you indict trump and and other people as well that they went after They don't care.

They just put it out there.

The Wall Street lawyers, okay, that created this model are the same lawyers, Wall Street lawyers that are still, I believe, creating these models.

It's this, if you go look at the lawfare against Donald Trump between after his first, no, even you can go to 2015 forward, you're going to find names like Brookings and, you know, Transition Integrity Project and, you know, Norm Eisen and Weissman and Mary McCord.

And then you say, oh, there's there's, you know, Georgetown, Harvard Law.

There is a group of people.

It doesn't exist.

Anyway, Cook's attorneys, Abby Lowell and Norman Eisen, said that they were actually considering having Cook appear at the November 5th hearing and go ahead and respond to the charges, because Trump wrote in the memorandum that, um, "As president, it is my job to ensure the laws are faithfully executed, including by firing subordinates who cannot be trusted to tell the truth and follow the law." Oh, you mean Trump just actually restated the reality of being president? Yeah.

Anyway, we'll see what happens.

We'll see what happens here.

This is pretty wild.

Norm Eisen, the former White House ethics czar, he says, I'm not saying that there's bribery here.

Bribery is tough to prove.

And Guilfoyle denies it.

Thank you very much.

I want to bring in our panel and CNN political commentators, also former Obama ethics czar and ambassador to the Czech Republic, Norm Eisen, and also Brad Todd, Republican strategist as well.

Brad, I mean, do you think reports like this one about Ambassador Guilfoyle register with people? Do you think it impacts people at a time of, I mean, is this a good look?

No, it's a bad look.

The American people are furious.

Yeah, we'll see.

Norm Eisen, Brett Todd, appreciate it.

Thanks, guys.

The fact that there is a four-hour hearing and it is demarcated and limited at that, that to me is almost more problematic.

Does a person have a fair opportunity be, to be heard if they are going to be stripped of their job on the basis of a four-hour hearing? Just ask yourself, how much evidence could be presented over the course of four hours? Do you have an opportunity to bring your own witnesses? Is there any rules of evidence that are gonna apply here? All of those things are probably questions that Norm Eisen and Abbe Lowell are asking themselves as part of Lisa Cook's legal team right now.

All right.

I wanna bring in Marc Elias, founder of Democracy Docker and partner of Elias Law Group.

or even Hoover.

In just the past several minutes, CNBC received a statement from Cook's attorneys, Abby Lowell and Norm Eisen, saying, and I quote her, we have grave doubts that this hearing, in quotes, is a legitimate one that would conform to the law.

But if it is anything close to objective, the conclusion will be that Governor Cook did not commit mortgage fraud, leaving no cause to remove her from the Federal Reserve Board.

And just Democratic Senator Elizabeth Warren also releasing a statement moments ago in which she said President Trump is convening an illegitimate show trial in his dangerous quest to illegally take over our nation's central bank.