Nora Aunor

... by, by the, by the art world.

And then later, uh, I took up a, uh, doctorate, a PhD in Philippine studies focusing on a, a movie star.

So I went back to film, uh, for my PhD.

Uh, I did a dissertation on Nora Aunor, is the country's, uh, most well-known, uh, transmedia star-

Mm

... who was, uh, who did work in film, television, music, and, uh, uh, theater.

... and with more confidence.

Yes.