Mm-hmm

... whether we're experiencing them now or in the past.

That's what people say when they're defending behavior like that.

So I, I just, I, I, you know, like, it, it's really...

It was, it was troubling for me at the time.

So by the time I, like, met Sabeel, I already knew all that stuff, but it was really interesting to meet someone whose parents were part of that generation who had to leave the country because of, of, uh, such things.

So, like, I, um, my, my father-in-law actually joined the Pakistani Foreign Service, was posted in Iran during independence, and then was, like, waiting for a Bangladeshi passport, uh, in Tehran as, like, his first posting.

Yes.