
No-observed-adverse-effect level
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Search complete. 4 mentions across 2 episodes found for "No-observed-adverse-effect level".
Oct 20, 2026
Episode 149: FDA Finalizes NDI Guidance - What Does It Mean for the Supplement Industry?
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12:41Graham MorganHOST
Okay.
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12:42Dana MahoneyHOST
That 1,000 milligrams is your NOAEL.
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12:45Graham MorganHOST
But you don't just tell the consumer they can take 1,000 milligrams per kilogram.
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12:49Graham MorganHOST
I mean, a 70-kilogram human taking 70,000 milligrams of an extract would be absurd and potentially lethal because humans aren't rodents.
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13:07Graham MorganHOST
Okay.
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13:07Graham MorganHOST
How does that math work?
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13:09Dana MahoneyHOST
Well, the standard practice is to divide the NOAEL by 10 to account for interspecies differences, meaning the biological difference between a rat and a human.
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13:20Graham MorganHOST
Got it.
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How threshold effects in pharmacology explain why more drug isn't always better
Oct 18 · 2 Mentions
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6:20MarcusGUEST
That's the cliff being measured in real time on real people.
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6:25HugoHOST
NOAEL, the therapeutic index, directly into how doses get approved.
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6:31HugoHOST
Goodman and Gilman codifies all of it as canonical standard.
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6:35HugoHOST
The regulatory goal was never maximum dose.
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8:33HugoHOST
It's not one data set, but a prospective mechanistic study, not retrospective curve fitting, showing precisely why a low dose carcinogen, say, stimulates repair while a high dose overwhelms it.
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8:47HugoHOST
We don't have that cleanly yet.
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8:49MarcusGUEST
What? The FDA's NOAEL framework assumes the curve only moves one direction.
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8:56HugoHOST
Yes, built entirely on monotonic assumptions, which means if a meaningful subset of dose response curves actually reverses direction, the safety standards derived from that framework could be systematically wrong for that subset, not slightly off, wrong in the wrong direction.