Neve Gordon
Israeli professor
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Sep 10, 2026
How Israel wields international law as a license to kill
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Neve GordonGUEST
There's a lot to say about human shielding, because after human right to dominate, when we came across the concept and its uses, we decided to write a whole book about it.

Neve GordonGUEST
And in a way, the history of human shielding is the history of the human, because only a human or someone that is recognized as a human can be a human shield.

Neve GordonGUEST
And so if we look at That historically at Human Shields, the first chapter in the Human Shields book begins with this, the Civil War in the United States, because it was whites fighting against whites.

Neve GordonGUEST
Fighting against non-whites because the non-whites were never considered human or fully human.

Neve GordonGUEST
And we see the siege on Charleston and Charleston is a slave city and half the population is probably black.
27 MINS LATER

Jonathan AdlerHOST
But I wonder if you think that there's something... particular to the discourse of human rights that makes it especially vulnerable to this kind of co-optation? Or maybe you don't even think it's co-optation.