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Nita Farahani

Feb 25, 2026

Nick ThompsonMODERATOR
5:42
Do you think that he's in control or do you think he's not? Tell me, where is Azeem in control? Where is it a blur and when does he lose it?
5:48
Yeah, I mean, this gets at such a fundamental question about what does it mean to actually be acting autonomously? Like, are you acting in a way that is consistent with your own desires or are you being steered in some way by somebody else's desires? And I think if you start from that starting place and realize there's very little that we do anymore that isn't being steered in some way.
6:10
You know, if you think about how much time you spend doing anything these days, it's driven by your tools.
6:16
It's driven by the amount of attention that you are able to spend.
6:19
I'm teaching a class this semester at Duke on mental privacy, so advanced topics in AI law and policy.
6:25
And I ran an attention audit for my students.
6:27
They had to use the number of times they picked up their devices.

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Nick ThompsonMODERATOR
37:29
What is the thing you're looking for? What is the bad thing that could happen or the good thing that could happen? that will put us on a better track with our relationship with AI? What is something that either will go this way or that way in the next year, but we're not sure about?

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