Nina Teicholz

You really wanna stay away from them.

So that, I took a deep dive in there, and that's why I got some great help, uh, and endorsements from Nina Teicholz, who I don't know if you know her.

She wrote the classic, uh, The Big Fat Surprise, came out in 2014.

It's still flying off the shelves.

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The Shocking Truth About Vegetable Oils.

I give him credit and Cate Shanahan and, uh, and Nina Teicholz.

Yeah, 'cause I, I actually talked to Chris this morning.

Let them know we sent you.

And we have Miss Nina on the line.

How's it going, Nina?

I'm hanging in there.

I'm doing all right.

Wow.

Wow, I'm, I'm liking this.

Go on, Nina.

I mean, maybe.

Then my good friend, Nina Teicholz, tweeted a few weeks ago about this food compass.

And the chart that she picked from their own data, she made a chart from that, Watermelon and kale both get perfect 100s, which I guess is not very surprising.

But number three on this list is frosted mini-wheats.

So Nina wrote about this in a Substack article.

I'm going to put a link down in the show notes.

I really want you to sign up for her Substack because When it comes to nutrition research, Nina Teicholz is one of the preeminent authorities in the world about giving you correct information, proper information.

Now, Professor Mozaffarian, who is the Dean of the Tufts Friedman School of Nutrition and Policy, is very tightly related to many governmental and NGO groups.

So I was still following that and a lot of other low carb doctors who, you know, like...

Or I, my favorites are Nina, uh, she's not a doctor, but she's a researcher, Nina Teicholz, and I was following also Zoe Harcombe, and I was following, um, uh, Dr. Paul My- Mason.

So these are like the people that I always stayed in touch virtually-

Mm-hmm

So, you know, and there's so many that came before both of us.

So, uh, you know, going back to Atkins and Noakes and Fedke and Nina Teicholz, um, and Eric Westman.

Uh, but yeah, I, so I appreciate, appreciate...

I love being here.

But if we had to eliminate one first, what would you say that that one would be?

From my experience and what I've discussed with Dr. Chris Kenobi, which you should have on your channel, and with Dr. Nina Teicholz, both of them, they wrote these amazing endorsements for my book.

I was just like, wow.

And they helped me.

If you want to elaborate, please feel free to elaborate on some of these, but first one here for you.

Sugar or seed oils? Which is worse?

I would have to say, according to what I've studied and my influencers that I follow, Dr. Chris Kenobi and Dr. Nina Teicholz, it would have to be the seed oils, you know, because they are neurodegenerative, carcinogenic, and seven to 10 times more likely to cause heart disease.

And that's a mouthful right there.

I would mention or direct people toward one, which is the formation of the Nutrition Coalition over the last year.

Dr. Sarah Hallberg is the interim director of that, and Nina Teicholz has been very involved as well.

So that is an effort to bring more – scientific information to light as it relates to dietary guidelines.

And if you go to their website, I believe they have a press release that talks about the 2000 and prior to the 2015 dietary guidelines being released, Congress passed in the last budget resolution a statement that directing the National Institutes of Medicine to do a full sort of survey or digging deeper into how the dietary guidelines are created.

I, I...

Tim Noakes then brought out his book, Real Meal, uh, Revolution, and then, uh, then Nina Teicholz, who I think, uh, uh, is probably the best book of all.

Uh, I'll always be indebted to Gary Taubes's book, but I think Nina's actually, uh, probably an even better book, and that's certainly the best book I've read, uh, on the topic, and I'll, I'll come back to that, uh, that book later on.

And, uh, so I, you know, I read everything I could possibly get my hands on.

And, you know, they never would, you know, they didn't go back and say, well, we can't, you know, this, maybe our underlying assumptions were false.

Nina Teicholz, who's a investigative journalist, she's wrote a great book.

And she led a coalition called the Nutrition Coalition that tried to get the U.S. Dietary Guidelines Committee, you know, 2020, 2015.

She was very active in those processes to try and get them to at least consider low carbohydrate diets.