I'm

going to start with something that is just in the air a lot.

I'm And it's, you know, the role of a donor advice fund and a DAF in giving because it is the fastest growing vehicle that people can use, the fastest growing means to do their charitable giving.

And that is, you know, majority of our assets are in donor advice funds.

And many people think they're parking lots or garages.

People park the money there and they don't give it out.

It just sits.

When you imagine this next generation of stewardship, what do you hope that, you know, either individuals or families are beginning to see kind of maybe the relationship between their giving and investments and the values they're trying to express?

What if I ordered fried chicken? That would make you feel more comfortable?

No.

As a Black American, a Black woman from the South, you know, particularly when you're doing food stuff, you never wanna get put into a box.

And so you're constantly aware of kinda cultural foods and what...

A- at least I am, and how they play into other people's psyche.

Um, I'm proud of fried chicken, but yeah, there's still things about my cultural foods that I'm aware other folks just, they still have those stereotypes, and I don't feel like explaining, so I would just rather order a salad, you know?

What about you, Nicole? What were some of the challenges you faced in trying to get your book published?

So I get the book proposal.

Why are they of interest?

Right.

They're of interest bec- pri- for a couple reasons.

One, it allows people to be philanthropic without setting up a foundation, so setting up a private foundation.

'Cause with a donor-advised fund, and it's actually the tax advantage is much better.

We're a public charity, so you're giving to a public charity.

It's a better, uh, tax deduction.

Yeah, tell us a little bit about that.