Yeah, why did I do that? You had time off, but you go, no, let's do some more

work.

So I did that.

And then I moved into training, the training space for Gowrie, Victoria.

And then I had four children of my own.

So it meant that I had enough skills and experience to be able to then go, you know what, I can consult.

So I've literally consulted for the last, well, when my daughter was only a couple of months old, I started my own consulting.

or pay I swear I will jump on a soapbox and say they deserve way more money and I do say this all the time because we have we have relegated it to this like it's below teaching it's below everything tell me any other person in this world who deserves better quality care than children