What are some of the shifts that you've seen, policy that's been affected, real movement in the space where it moves from ideas and putting it into policy and action?

I think there's been a lot of movement.

I mean, I think also in the culture change narrative space, I've seen massive shifts, even in the five years that I've been at Caring Across Generations.

You're seeing more representative stories of care out there.

You're seeing more media stories about the impact of the things that we've been talking about, including economic impact in ways, frankly, like it's moved faster than I ever thought that it would.

That being said, obviously there's a long way to go to, to ultimately win on the issues that we need to win on to support the people that need it.

But I've also seen what we saw with the pandemic with the, a real laser focus on the care economy and the care infrastructure and what happened when everybody that was working had to come home and the care responsibilities all showed up at the door, whether it was for a kid or an aging parent.

Can you tell us a little bit about that and goal and the aim for that? And how's it going?