Nicolas Babin

So that's interesting.

Nicolas Babin ran Sony's AI and Robotics, uh, division, and now he's the EU Digital Ambassador that regularly comes on to Informational Visions.

Nobody else in my roster can take this conversation from both sides, corporate side and the policy side.

And when a machine can make a decision and physically hurt someone, not just get something wrong in a spreadsheet, you know, who is liable? And Europe is already writing that answer.

... what's going on.

So, so what's your vision then in, in four or five years' time? Look, we're, we're at 2026, right? We're not talking about this 2030 conspiracy s- theory or, you know, other people's visions for what they think the world should be like.

What does Nicolas Babin think that his immediate world is gonna look like in 2031, say?

Okay.