Nick, why do you think it's important to have, um, farmers involved other than just simply, you know, providing plots of land, but involved in the co-design? And what will you and the other farmers involved really bring to the project and the results?

Um, I think, you know, farmers are generally pretty good at coming up with, with problems, um, and, you know, ul- ul- ultimately challenge everything that's sort of put in front of them.

Um, so, you know, I'm fair- fairly certain Alice has been involved with this all before and know, know exactly how we generally sort of challenge things.

Um, so I think, you know, there, there, there's, there's a multitude of ideas out there.

Uh, you know, and the useful bit is, you know, we all, uh, you know, ultimately trying to achieve the end goal doing it all in very very different ways.

So, you know, between us we can start to, um, you know, draw those ideas together and, you know, if we can prepare it, you know, across our businesses, then it's going to be relevant to everyone else as well.

Um, you know, I, I think the key one having been involved with these type of projects before is, you know, a, a- the characters you have involved, um, but also the person who sort of leads and drives.

Were there other challenges that sort of came to mind as we were sitting in that kickoff meeting for you as a farmer?