Nicene–Constantinopolitan Creed

So this is not some... sort of weird idiosyncratic reformed approach to Christology.

At Constantinople in AD 381, in the Nicene Constantinopolitan Creed, the church confessed.

So in the Nicene Creed, and I won't read the Greek text for you because I don't read Greek out loud very often, and it wouldn't make a lot of sense maybe.

It doesn't sound anything like English.

And we'll do it

all again in 2081 when we get the Nicene Constantinopolitan Creed.

Yeah.

So season six, we thought that it's been a while since we've actually been in the Bible and we thought it might be a good idea.

And the Trinity teaches the Spirit actually receives worship and glory.

And in the Holy Spirit, the Lord, the giver of life, who proceeds from the Father, who with the Father and the Son is worshipped and glorified, according to the Nicene Constantinopolitan Creed.

Well, that's news to me.

I don't know about you, because the Holy Spirit is never given worship or glory in the Bible.

And George continued to assume that the word was a person, but he couldn't offer any lexical support for this assertion.

That takes care of the second person of the Trinity.

What about the third, the Holy Spirit? Well, the Nicene Constantinopolitan Creed asserts, without any evidence, that the Holy Spirit is worshipped and glorified.

But this is simply untrue.

So I will now just... move quickly, to save a bit of time, to the concilia text, because I think that's the key thing to bring this to an end.

So turning lastly to the concilia evidence, the definitive statement is the Niceno-Constantinopolitan Creed of 381.

It opens, "...we believe in God the Father Almighty, identifying the Father as the one God." It confesses the Son as the only begotten Son of God, begotten the Father before all ages, affirming relational distinction, and as true God from true God, begotten not made, of one essence with the Father, affirming sameness of divinity.

It likewise confesses the Spirit as one who proceeds from the Father, affirming relational distinction, and who with the Father and Son together is worshipped and glorified, affirming sameness of divinity.

And so, yeah, the council was convened in Nicaea and this is where

You know, most of us at Math are used to saying every Sunday, the Nicene Creed, which the full name is the Niceno-Constantinopolitan Creed, because it was mostly formulated at the first council in Nicaea and then added a little bit, added a little bit in the, along with the later councils in Constantinople.

But anyway, this is, this is where we really say, okay, what is it that we believe about the person of Jesus and about who is God? What is God? What does this mean? and, and, Like I said,

yeah.