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And that's essentially the summative question that we put to the to this morning's panelists, a terrific lineup of experts who have written a great deal about this question and related ones.

Joining me in the order that they will be speaking are Pablo Beramende, the Newman-Ivey White Distinguished Professor of Political Science at Duke University, who brings A comparative perspective to these questions, having written extensively about political geography, federalism and integration in the European as well as American context, most recently in geography, capacity and inequality with Melissa Rogers.

uh next to pablo uh is ron brownstein the senior political analyst for uh cnn uh and uh columnist for bloomberg opinion uh the author of many books uh including the second civil war how extreme partisanship has paralyzed washington and polarized america And and then Emily Zak and the associate professor of political science at Johns Hopkins, who writes about American political and constitutional development and especially the role of social movements in shaping legal conflicts.

And her most recent book is the political development of American debt relief with Chloe Thurston.