So let's g- so tell me, AI credit union employees, what's there to say about that other than you may lose your job?

Well, let me give some context, too, for my answer, like where am I coming from? So BOXT, Better Organizations by Design, the firm that I founded and I run, we deal in the space of organizational transformation, organization design, so that means designing work.

That's the, what I'm gonna focus on.

The other work that we do is around how teams and leaders work together to actually deliver.

So now given that context, I do wanna share my thoughts then on how, what credit union employees and leaders can expect with AI coming into play.

I know credit unions are very skittish about doing workforce reductions, rightly so.

Like, it's not something that is part of their culture.

Well, keep, keep going, um, 'cause I am interested, and I d- I don't think I've ever talked seriously about the future of credit unions.

So

our growth plans always include thinking about both.

Now, to answer your question, like, are we thinking several years out or are we thinking three years? So, of course, we have our near term planning.

You can't not, John, like we always have to have near term planning.

And I always say, well, we can't see 10 years out.

We have a general idea of where we want to go.

Right.

I imagine that it's probably not all that easy along the way.