What, what are you finding, like, is the biggest transition piece for you from playing to coaching? What, what, what's, what are you finding hard? What are you finding are challenges?

I think, yeah, the, I wouldn't say challenge, more work odds is how I transfer my knowledge to the players.

So, you know, like, in terms of how I see things and how I see the game.

In my mind, and w- this is where, um, you know, I've learnt to, you know, from obviously older coaches and I've talked to a lot of the, um, coaches and, you know, get advice from them, and the biggest thing that, you know, keeps getting told to me is that, I get told is the image and the, the, the way you see the game is different to the way someone else sees a game.

So what I think might be, yep, is easy to do, might be a bit, not a bit challenging, but might be that they have it a different way.

So it's trying to find that language, for me is trying to find the language on how I t- how I transfer, you know, my knowledge and what I f- how I li- you know, how the game should, how I think the game's played and, and, like, ways of how to play, and it's just trying to transfer that knowledge.

And it's been challenging, but the good thing is [chuckles] I've, um, you know, I've got some good coaches that I work under at, at the Drua, and just, you know, I'm, I'm like that leech.

H- how do you, how do you find it?