Neil Bogart

It was a record label at the time.

The president was a guy named Neil Bogart.

And the manager of Kiss, the man that really developed, he saw the seed of the idea and grew it, was a gentleman named Bill O'Coin, A-U-C-O-I-N.

So I

That's awesome.

He goes, I remember.

And so he says, there was a time when the band used to show up late for meetings with Neil Bogart, and he got frustrated, so he gave them all watches.

It's kind of a famous story.

But by this time, I mean, it, it just sounds old hat, you know? After Love to Love You Baby and then I Feel Love, it's kinda like, you know, Donna regressing in a way.

To me, it sounds like, you know, this was a Neil Bogart idea that they were talked into to do this, you know? Because he loved his orgies, and it would have been another great song to play at his orgies, especially in this sort of long version, essentially.

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But I felt like I didn't feel like there was anything horny about that song.

So, you know, the major, there's to me four or five labels that were key in the dance music scene.

Casablanca and a guy named Neil Bogart with Donna Summer, okay, and Prelude out of New York.

Salsa Records, which was out of Philadelphia, and I think, and TK Records.

Those were the key players, and...

on it kiss do induce i was literally about to say you beat me too and i was literally waiting

for that dude that's where the first thing yeah came in right the manager oh who was this neil bogart or whatever it was he had the idea right give

him the get get the motown thing going yeah With a guitar.

It

And he's pulled on top with long hair on the sides.

I remember they spent so much money on this show because you had these three heavyweights, Norman Lear, Don Kirshner, and Neil Bogart.

I mean, each one of them in their field was – I don't think there was anyone bigger at the time.

And they spent – it was almost a competition of who could spend the most money to get this thing going.

It was Bill O'Coin.

It might have been Neil Bogart was in on it.

And I'm sure there were other people.

And that's not what I'm getting at.

paul stanley wants to know if he should remix strutter to have more of an earth wind and fire vibe here in 1978 what do you guys think should he do it should he

get you know he might have been able to do it uh because around this time is when maurice white opened up the complex which had like recording studios and rehearsal spaces and it was this you know he ran this big multi-faceted entertainment building essentially where artists could come and do all the things right right and uh another kiss connection um the complex uh was in the same building that neil bogart had for casablanca so paul stanley very well could have remixed uh strutter 78 wow in that building

could have happened had no idea i was just talking crap it's a possibility All right.

This should be the

Yeah, so in 1979, well, first of all, let's go back to 1975.

1975, Kiss and my dad have this connection that, And the connection was they both, well, Neil Bogart signed Kiss.

And dad did a project of 45 in 1975 on Casablanca Records with Neil Bogart.

So it says, you know, Sir Douglas Quintet produced by Neil Bogart.

So that's how they knew each other.

So they did a thing in 75.

If you're looking at the state's profile as a mitten, it would be smack in the middle of the crotch between the thumb and the fingers.

Bill Kehoe, he was close to 40 years old when he was doing this scheme, and I think he saw himself as another Neil Bogart or another Allen Klein.

Two of the first big music managers.

Neil Bogart signed Kiss and was a big player in the rise of disco.

Allen Klein famously managed the Beatles and the Stones.

Bill Kehoe aspired to be in that tier.

That was a theory I could follow through, all the way through.

And being with a company like Casablanca, Neil Bogart, who was also a promotion man who knew how to hype.

He had Kiss, Donna Summer.

He knew how to hype records, so I knew with him, the two of us, we could hype this stuff out of, off the planet 'cause I had Bootsy, Bernie, Gary.