Negreira case

But at the same time, you let the story get told that way.

Because Negreira has not been prosecuted.

So... goes both ways and you know lastly as we i heard at halftime before the game of the game last week like the the la liga referees are not promoted based on merit like it's like who's liked more like there's politics involved it's not about like who makes the best correct call but putting it all together what's your read on this situation because i feel like we can't stay in la liga at this rate

I mean, that would be quite an angle, but I think that it's both sides on the wrong.

We are just gonna find a way." And you see that in the kind of mythical comebacks, the last minute winners, all these kind of things but it, but if you, if you stretch it too far and you take it too far you get this scenario where there's this kind of conspiratorial view of referees of the entire league system.

Of course the Negreira case has come back especially with the city verdict and they're like, "Oh, well what about Barcelona and Negreira?" And yes that is a separate case and that is currently being investigated and going through, uh, the processes so Real Madrid have, have given a dossier to UEFA which is kind of the latest news.

Um, but yeah in this particular match Mourinho was at it from the start wasn't he? He was...

He just looks grumpy.

Vini Junior is, you know, incandescent with, with rage about the fact he's been sent off and he's had his goal disallowed.

You see the clip of Jude Bellingham who is, is a player I really do respect and I think he is a proper leader in that dressing room but he's caught on camera saying the game's gone because of this decision.

Tchouameni like you say is bringing up the, the conspiracy theories around, um, the, the Negreira case and Jose Mourinho not doing the press conference.

All those things would point towards, oh well we've been disadvantaged because we've been you know unjustly punished with a red card They've all got televisions.

Now we've got this huge scandal, and you have to wonder what other scandals might be going on.

If you were a Machiavellian and ruthless operator, such as exists at the top of the game, would you stick to just cooking the books or would you look at other ways that you could be Machiavellian and ruthless? You know, what other things could, uh, ambitious people do to get football outcomes more to their liking, right? In Spain, they've got this huge refereeing scandal at the moment, this Negreira thing.

This is tearing their league apart right now because on one reading of this case, it's like here's a two-team league, and one of the teams is fixing it.

Oh, problem, right? This isn't good, right? This is really, this is causing a lot of problems.

That's good.

Yeah.

But in, in the context of the, uh, of the Negreira thing, obviously every, every decision becomes suspect.

Now, I have friends who are obsessed with referees, right? And, and it's funny.

What the hell?

Hey, do you have a question for the other Barca fans? Do, uh, is this getting added to the Negreira files? Because that's what Madrid do every single time.

Yeah, it should be.

Oh, no, it will be.

It will be.

Yeah, but that, that's what they do every time there's like a bad game or like a bad call.

Oh, Negreira, ra, ra, ra.

[laughs] Well, sure, I was gonna say, um, lack of VAR in the '90s is the reason I will never rate those rubbish center backs from Syria.

Yeah, to a certain degree, I think.

But for example, Reuters didn't really cover the Negreira case being mentioned by UEFA because there was nothing new.

There was no, Real Madrid obviously sent those 50,000 documents to UEFA and we obviously kind of raised this and discussed it.

But UEFA said that their investigation was ongoing.

Like, I believe you need to use them.

But at the end of the day, Pep did get caught for that too, you know? Like, that's just how it went.

So... um i don't hate him for it like i you know i doping is the least of my concerns with him but um um you know like because everyone does like what about hansi flick over at byron remember when he had that whole reputation and i mean even to now he does but um my point is um on social media i've never seen the chatter louder in the sense that even man city fans are like hey And, um, we, if we, she did, but we, we had revenues like, is it Negreira worse? They should be punished worse.

But then, um, you know, the Michael Oliver Abu Dhabi stuff comes out and the decision against Liverpool the next day after he referees in Abu Dhabi and that stuff looks really silly too.