Near to the Wild Heart

they're not going to be wearing swastikas or ss uniforms he goes this is a this is a mind thing like this is something that is inside their brain and inside the way that they see the world a lot of that stuff is used in east of eden right like these world views are so vastly different between characters.

We look at Kathy and, you know, Kathy actually reminds me of a character written by Clarissa Spector in Near to the Wild Heart, Joanna, who is such a conflicted character.

And she talks so much about good and evil in Near to the Wild Heart.

And she even talks like, I love evil.

Like I love, I hate goodness.

And then you mention, I think, Euripides' Medea.

Yeah.

So that's another... deplorable woman in literature i uh have mentioned earlier i i wouldn't say she's deplorable i say i would say more conflicted um emotionally and you know maybe mentally but joanna from near to the wild heart i think also just reading clarice suspector period i think clarice is Someone that was just so introspective of herself and the female character and how they're represented and how she fleshed them out, especially in Near to the Wild Heart.