NationBuilder

Right.

And Bradford's campaign also highlighted the fact that Olivia Chow's campaign is using the app NationBuilder.

What do you think of that comparison, as I know you've looked into both?

Yeah, I mean, NationBuilder is a fairly well-established app, um, in, in Canadian politics.

It's been around for, for decades.

Um, it is a...

You know, there are also having concerns raised in the past about NationBuilder, particularly in the data collection practices.

So it's not like, you know, these political technologies, some are totally neutral and some are problematic.

Is there a website or an email?

Yeah, you can get me at email at baileystempleton at gmail.com. My website's baileystempleton.nationbuilder.com. It's all, everything's in my name.

My phone number's out there and I'll take any call.

Something I do want to stress to people is if you...