National Wildfire Coordinating Group

And if you think about consolidation, everybody gets kind of uptight a little bit because it's a big word and it's a big thing.

But consolidation never occurs until you break it down functionally, right? 'Cause you got training things to align, which un-under NWCG and Quals, we're pretty much there, but you got different policies, you got different base structures, you got all these different things that you gotta meld into one, and it happens in chunks.

It doesn't just-- You don't just flip a switch one day and say, "Oh, we're consolidated." Uh, you gotta go through that process.

And so, you know, I've been, been talking a little bit to, to Brian and others, Chris, and, you know, if you break down the functions of consolidation, tech is one of those things, right? Because right now you've got the Forest Service and US Wildland Fire Service need-