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Oct 19, 2026

Tom WoodsHOST
0:54
Just looking around America, there's always something to, to talk about.
Tom WoodsHOST
0:57
And in particular, what is this crazy thing that happened? Because it says so much, none of it good, about after the National Conservatism Conference, a comment that was made involving, involving George Kennan and you.
Darryl CooperGUEST
1:13
Yeah.
Darryl CooperGUEST
1:13
Well, first I just wanted to say, if you get tired of the heat down there at any time, I have a second ax, and if you wanna come help chop wood up in northern Idaho, we got a spot for you always.
Darryl CooperGUEST
1:34
Well, we just got our first snow flurries yesterday, so like I said, we have a, we have a nice warm spare room for you if you, uh, don't mind chopping wood.
Tom WoodsHOST
1:41
Okay.
Darryl CooperGUEST
1:41
But yeah, so they had that National Conservatism Conference, that thing Yoram Hazony puts on, and they had it in Jerusalem on October 7th, which, you know, is an interesting choice, putting it on the anniversary of the Battle of Lepanto like that.
Darryl CooperGUEST
1:56
Just, you know, interesting historical reference by Yoram.
Harrison SmithHOST
64:16
That's how crazy things are getting in that camp, the NatCon camp.
Harrison SmithHOST
64:21
Because at, at the National Conservatism Conference, there are some Zionist speakers that were like, "You know, we should probably stop calling everybody antisemitic all the time," and Amanda Milius is one of these people.
Harrison SmithHOST
64:33
Now, Awesome Jew is [laughs] Awesome Jew is, uh, interviewing Amanda Milius, and now people are calling Awesome Jew a Jew for Hitler, a Nazi.
Harrison SmithHOST
64:48
Welcome to the club, buddy.

54 MINS LATER

Harrison SmithHOST
119:16
Awesome Jew is being called a Nazi.
Harrison SmithHOST
119:19
Everyone is out of their minds.
Harrison SmithHOST
119:21
In a word, everyone is out of their minds, okay? So there's this National Conservatism Conference, and this was supposed to be sort of...
Harrison SmithHOST
119:32
On the outside, it was presented as almost a more right-wing version of something like CPAC or AmFest.
Scott HortonHOST
44:07
I wanted to talk about this when we were doing our Q&A thing, but I didn't get to it.
Scott HortonHOST
44:12
What is this? But it is important, I think, and it's, you know, part of that, part of the question of that whole National Conservatism Conference.
Scott HortonHOST
44:23
Like, why are they, why is the American National Conservatism Conference happening in Jerusalem? And like, can't you people see what's going on here? The Israelis saw that the American right was moving to the right from W.
Scott HortonHOST
44:34
Bush.
Scott HortonHOST
44:35
No, we're stricter on immigration actually now, and we're, you know, whatever.
Harrison SmithHOST
31:32
It's the final segment, so I'm just making sure I got all my bases covered.
Harrison SmithHOST
31:35
So, NatCon, the National Conservative Conference.
Harrison SmithHOST
31:42
Here's how the Grok AI summarized it today.
Harrison SmithHOST
31:46
It was a trending topic.
Harrison SmithHOST
34:43
And so John Poterets basically said, "I didn't like that.
Harrison SmithHOST
34:46
I don't like this, because it's white Christian countries that did the Holocaust.
Harrison SmithHOST
34:51
So actually, they're our number one enemy, and anybody sort of pretending to play along with them in order to benefit Israel is playing a very dangerous game and is gonna get burned." And so that's sort of the divide, is between people in the National Conservative Conference who think that, you know, they need to try harder to kinda woo nationalists in Europe by no longer, you know, deliberately dismantling their countries, and the other half that thinks, "No, no, no, the Western European American populations are the only real threat we have to contend with, so why are you empowering them when they're the only ones we're really worried about?" Like I've said before, they're not worried about Iran.
Harrison SmithHOST
35:33
They're not really that worried about the Palestinians.
Harrison SmithHOST
19:01
That's how crazy things are getting in that camp, the NatCon camp.
Harrison SmithHOST
19:06
Because at, at the National Conservatism Conference, there are some Zionist speakers that were like, "You know, we should probably stop calling everybody anti-Semitic all the time," and Amanda Milius is one of these people.
Harrison SmithHOST
19:18
Now, Awesome Jew is [chuckles] Awesome Jew is, uh, interviewing Amanda Milius, and now people are calling Awesome Jew a Jew for Hitler, a Nazi.
Harrison SmithHOST
19:33
Welcome to the club, buddy.
Harrison SmithHOST
12:26
So that's gonna be an aspect of this that I look forward to, that it's sort of like this week on, you know, this week on the NatCon Conference.
Harrison SmithHOST
12:34
Last week we saw the, the National Conservatism Conference was exposed by Jonathan Poterets, but the fallout has actually expanded and evolved and it's way crazier now.
Harrison SmithHOST
12:44
Let me just give you, let me just give you an example here.
Harrison SmithHOST
12:46
All right, last week I showed you this video of Jon Poterets saying that national conservatism was a Straussian project of Yoram Hazony, whose purpose, true purpose, hidden secret purpose, was to secure Western support for Israel annexing the West Bank.
Harrison SmithHOST
12:59
He claims Hazony told this himself at his house in the West Bank.
Harrison SmithHOST
13:02
So he says that in 1996 or '7, 30 years ago, Yoram Hazony, the head of the National Conservatism Conference, told him that the National Conservatism Conference was, for lack of a better term, a psyop, a two-fold, a two-purpose psyop.
Harrison SmithHOST
13:16
One, to increase European and American support for the Greater Israel project and expansion of Israeli territory into the West Bank, but secondly, of distracting and rendering impotent genuine national conservatism and nationalism in Western countries in America.
Harrison SmithHOST
13:31
So you co-opt that energy, it serves Israel, allows them to achieve their goals, while simultaneously distracts the nationalists from achieving anything for themselves and their country.
Dan HollawayHOST
56:20
Uh, Yoram Hazony, who's been in, uh, the news a bit lately, um, his argument is national, where Vermeule's is jur- uh, uh, juridical, that the nation-state is the best available political order, that the live alternative is not peace but empire, and that the authentic Anglo-American conservative tradition was displaced in the 20th century by Enlightenment liberalism, including the version, uh, National Review accepted.
Dan HollawayHOST
56:46
Um, his Edmund Burke Foundation was founded in January of 2019 and has run the National Conservatism Conferences ever since.
Dan HollawayHOST
56:53
NatCon, it just happened last week.
Dan HollawayHOST
56:55
A lot of, uh, some controversy about it.
Harrison SmithHOST
8:41
Do you see what I'm saying? And again, the-- It's bizarre that this whole conversation is happening, and I would connect this to the NatCon conference that they went through.
Harrison SmithHOST
8:53
Remember, John Poteritz sort of blew up Yoram Hazony's psyop that he's been running for 30 years by claiming that in 1996, he was standing in the West Bank with Yoram Hazony, the leader of the National Conservatism Conference, and Yoram Hazony said, "You know what we need to do to support Israeli, you know, uh, greater Israel project and Israel conquering the West Bank is we need to get Europeans on our side of Israeli nationalism.
Harrison SmithHOST
9:18
We're going to use nationalism as a concept to get people on side of Israel so that we can take over the land of the Palestinians." And then there, you know, then at the NatCon conference, you had half the people sort of taking the f-- You know, this guy that we just heard laid out two positions, and you had half the people sort of take the one that said, you know, "White nationalism is still the, the greatest threat, and we need to oppose that," and the other half going, "Well, actually, if we want to, you know, succeed in the future, we need to not be, uh, expelling and alienating white people who see the way that the Jewish community undermines their national sovereignty." Again, as that guy just admitted.
Harrison SmithHOST
9:58
Uh, that's another reason I wanted to show that is because this has been a, a pretty big topic of conversation, and we've heard multiple people, including people like Adam King, when he was talking to Alex, claim that, you know, nationalism itself is a, is a Jewish concept and that, you know, these European countries need to be more like Israel as if Israel is the, uh, you know, example for everybody else.
Will ChamberlainHOST
1:22
I'm Will Chamberlain, your host.
Will ChamberlainHOST
1:24
Last week, the National Conservatism Conference went to Jerusalem for the first time.
Will ChamberlainHOST
1:28
One panel in particular has consumed online right-wing discussion for an entire week.
Will ChamberlainHOST
1:32
My friends Matt Peterson, Amanda Milius, Jonathan Kiefermann, and William Wolfe gave bracing, frank, and provocative speeches on what they see as the reasons for why support for Israel is softening on the American right, especially among conservatives under 40, and what could be done to bolster that support.
Jason JonesHOST
1:03
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Jason JonesHOST
1:11
So that's vulnerablepeopleproject.com and savewestbankchristians.com. Today, I'm joined by the great Stephen Herriot, and we're gonna be talking about, um, the National Conservatism Conference.
Jason JonesHOST
1:25
I-- Is that the name, Stephen Herriot?
Stephen HerreidHOST
1:27
That's the name of it, the National Conservatism Conference, although our colleague Halil has an idea for changing its name, and it's taking place this week in Jerusalem.
Jason JonesHOST
1:36
Ooh, what's the, what's the name change?
Stephen HerreidHOST
1:38
Well, he said it should just be called the, um, the National Nationalist Israeli Conference or something like that.

29 MINS LATER

Stephen HerreidHOST
30:53
Really.
Stephen HerreidHOST
30:54
Don't you think? I mean, I've been shocked.

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