National College of Art and Design

Uh, yeah.

So, so when I left school, I originally went to, uh, NCAD in Dublin to study, study fine art painting, uh, which was a big love of mine at the time, and, um, I wasn't really looking at law or anything like that.

But, um, so I did my degree there in art history and art, and, um, had a wonderful time there.

It's just-

So I went to college then.

I went to NCAD, which was like the best time of my life because I got to express and, you know, make art and whatever.

Made amazing friends.

And it was through that, like through building my confidence and building a sense of self through creativity.

And it just really inspired me to try it myself.

And I saw there was a nighttime course in NCAD in stained glass.

So I started that course.

And then when I finished the course, Charlie suggested that we start working together.

And then we also had, oh my gosh, her name has gone for me.

Orla Langdon from NCAD, who's a lecturer in NCAD and also a fashion designer herself.

That's all the

bases

You mightn't have an answer to the next question, but have any of your former winners gone on to careers or to becoming the equivalent of household names in the world of fashion or design? Not

household names yet, but definitely...

Definitely gone to fashion college like NCAD or Limerick.

Yeah.