Nathrop

They don't say anything about how somebody's gonna respond in a clinical context." He hated that answer.

And then when he finally retired, he moved to a small town in Colorado called Nathrop, population seventy-six elk.

And he decided that he was going to open a clinical practice for the first time, utilizing his intimate knowledge of hypnosis.

It wasn't even three months later, he calls me up and says, "Now I see what you're talking about." And then that, that was in the mid-'90s.