Nathaniel Branden

I often have this theory, Sheldon.

I, you know, you said you got involved after the 1968 breakup with Rand, Ayn Rand and Nathaniel Branden.

I, I really like to believe that if that breakup doesn't happen, that Ayn Rand might very well have changed the world, but-

Who k- You know, who knows? Uh-

Yeah

... you know, the same kind of stuff.

Probably he wrote most of that stuff at, at the, when he was still on the, on, you know, running the National Nathaniel Branden Institute.

And his lectures, look, his 20 lectures on the basic principles-

It's called The Six Pillars.

It's named The Six Pillars because the first book we read was The Six Pillars of Self-Esteem, [coughs] excuse me, by Nathaniel Branden, a book I recommend for everyone.

I understand self-esteem very well.

I have high self-esteem.