Nathan Thrall

And I think that is, as a rule, that is true, right? You become a better writer if you are a good reader.

And so one of the books we read was Nathan Thrall's A Day in the Life of Abed Salama.

If you haven't read it, it is a book I would press in everybody's hand.

When people say the Middle East is really complicated, this is the book that will make it easy for you to understand.

And I think Ultimately, I'm an optimist because I now am involved in teaching 20 somethings.

You know, I teach master's students, too.

But because I'm involved in teaching now, I think that you kind of have to just hope that you make these connections with people and you're creating new Nathan Thralls and new John Ronsons and new, you know, that there is this possibility that.

that it isn't going to be students who are only going to be interested in making a living out of journalism in a quick, quick, quick way.