Nathan Pritikin

Because one of the things that, and I don't know if you faced this, but one of the things that slowed me down so much in the beginning was imposter syndrome.

I thought, why would anybody listen to me? Because I learned from listening to Esselstyn, listening to Neil Barnard, looking at Nathan Pritikin, looking at McDougal, like all of the gurus in the space.

And in my brain, anybody that wants to learn want to go to these gurus.

They don't care about no engineer.

Right.

But she ended up watching a segment on Nathan Pritikin, who was one of the early lifestyle medicine pioneers.

She checked into his clinic, where she was put on a strict plant-based diet and a graded exercise routine.

And the results were fast.

So I was never a traditional cardiologist.

I, I learned about nutrition, um, in the, um, in the 70s from Nathan Pritikin, the author of The Pritikin Diet.

And I worked in that arena to help people prevent their coronary artery disease rather than go in the cath lab and try to treat it after it had already occurred.

So you've written the book, but I guess the question I was sort of asking you is that how would you suggest people approach the oncology unit or approach their oncology doctors or caregivers if they want cannabis as part of the therapeutics? What's the best way for them to approach an ignorant system, if that's a good word to use?