Mm

...

in a way, or why I make it about what it's about, which is about, you know, radical leftist, revolutionary communist Marxist Leninists, uh, who love movies.

Um, because if you get too entrenched, you can really quickly sink into feeling like, "Oh, well, the puzzle pieces have to fit together in some way," you know? And it's like, fuck the puzzle, you know? You can't...

There's, there's right and wrong, you know? And, um, at some point you have to do what's right, though the heavens may fall, you know? And backing some, backing Biden, who represented...

He's kind of a perfect representation of the United States's, you know, imperialism and, um, you know, as he said, you know, undying support for an apartheid state that commits genocide against, you know, Brown people.

Um, it's wrong.

[laughs]

think,

who's still around, lives in San Diego now.

And they made like these Maoist movies.

I was scared of these movies.

You know what I mean? Like I was so intimidated by their reputation that I just never really tried.

And then like four or five years ago, I was like, I got to do these, you know? And they were so surprising to me.

I love them so much.

It starts off with May 68 comes up on screen, doesn't it? So it's kind of like postmortem of May 68, I suppose.

You do.

So, you know, it was just kind of natural that I ended up drawing a lot of stuff that was movie themed.

And then actually my partner, Jolie, at one point a long time ago, like 15 or 16 years ago, was just like, "Oh, you should try to make a print or something and see how that does." And so we, I made like a Godard print, and then, I mean, and then I realized that what people really want is something that's, like, cheaper and that they can carry around.

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