Natalie Wynn
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Sep 14, 2026
Adam ConoverGUEST
And you can't ignore that.
Adam ConoverGUEST
And sometimes I'm like, all right, is my desire to go to do something that feels more like a television show? Am I just being an old man about it? Should I just do the new thing? Should I just, you know, I look at people I really admire on YouTube, like ContraPoints and Hbomberguy are two YouTube video SAS I adore.
Adam ConoverGUEST
And they have, they do this very specific internet native model where each of them makes one three hour long YouTube video once a year that is so amazing that they have a massive Patreon audience.
Adam ConoverGUEST
And they take no brand deals.
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Adam ConoverGUEST
Yeah.
Adam ConoverGUEST
The reality is I would love to do a totally pure show where I'm just, you know, subscriber funded.
Adam ConoverGUEST
You know, I would I would love to be ContraPoints or H-Bomber guy.
Adam ConoverGUEST
Right.
speaker_0PANELIST
There were.
speaker_11PANELIST
Well, I want to bring up a really good point from Natalie Wynn, uh, Contrapoints, like, on Twitter.
speaker_11PANELIST
Um, while making fun of someone's death and violence is bad and would normally be escalating, it was actually how the left de-escalated the right's open calls to civil war after it happened.
DestinyHOST
Right.
Jon RonsonGUEST
I'm slightly out of my depth here, because I've, I haven't watched that many of them.
Jon RonsonGUEST
But ContraPoints I think is an-
Nick GillespieHOST
Mm-hmm
Jon RonsonGUEST
... interesting example of somebody who does kind of, you know, nuanced, interesting stuff often.
HutchGUEST
And I don't think we should undersell that because I mean, and I had like a similar experience because I used to have like a pretty like pretty left wing audience, like much more than it is now.
HutchGUEST
And, you know, I would fire up my stream and I would, I would crack these, what I thought were jokes, right? Like I would crack jokes about like guillotines and, uh, I would call people, I would call people comrades and, uh, you know, uh, uh, ContraPoints put up a video recently where she was talking about like adopting a lot of the aesthetic of, of the far left, but it was kind of ironic.
HutchGUEST
And I was doing the same thing.
HutchGUEST
And I thought I was being ironic.
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Harley MorensteinHOST
men with microphones.
KateHOST
There aren't enough of them.
KateHOST
We should try to get ContraPoints next.
KateHOST
Speaking of ladies, get more ladies in here.
Jesse SingalHOST
Yeah.
Jesse SingalHOST
What you just said about lesbians wanting dick once in a while, there was a ContraPoints tweet.
Jesse SingalHOST
It got people so mad.
Jesse SingalHOST
The tweet was like, Gen Z queer people are hard to figure out.
Katie HerzogHOST
I don't think that was exactly it, but it was close to that.
Jesse SingalHOST
It was basically that.
Jesse SingalHOST
And when I Googled it, I found mostly people who were so mad about it, including September 29th, 2021, ContraPoints tweeted and made us start a podcast.
Jesse SingalHOST
What's the podcast?
speaker_0HOST
Another is behind a paywall.
speaker_0HOST
So the first one was ContraPoints on the West talking about how people want to defend the west or consider the west in decline but there really isn't any such thing as the west because different things have been referred to as the west and the borders of the west have changed and so on um and then there was another one um by historian explaining about how different things are meant by the word capitalism as well and that therefore capitalism is a myth of course And actually, I happen to be in the middle of reading Wittgenstein's Philosophical Investigations, and it occurs to me that that notion may be covered less by one of these fallacies than by something that Wittgenstein talks about in that book, which is that you have something, and his example is games, where there's really no, we have this word game, which applies to a diverse number of activities.
speaker_0HOST
And we all seem to understand what we mean when we say the word game.
speaker_0HOST
But when you try to actually define a game, there's really no one aspect or quality which covers every single instance of what we would call a game you can always come up with examples if you're saying well games are this and you can you know okay games are played with other people okay what about solitaire just for example um well just about every other game is played with multiple people but um so there there's an overlapping um network of connections uh which he calls a family resemblance and this is a way of understanding the concept of a game rather than saying well you can't actually define a game so there's no such thing as a game anyways moving on So I say with equal tendentiousness, everything is a thing.
speaker_0HOST
Another is behind a paywall.
speaker_0HOST
So the first one was ContraPoints on the West talking about how People want to defend the West or consider the West in decline but there really isn't any such thing as the West because Different things have been referred to as the West and the borders of the West have changed and so on And then there was another one By historian explaining about how different things are meant by the word capitalism as well and that therefore capitalism is a myth of course And actually, I happen to be in the middle of reading Wittgenstein's Philosophical Investigations, and it occurs to me that that notion may be covered less by one of these fallacies than by something that Wittgenstein talks about in that book, which is that you have something, and his example is games, where there's really no, we have this word game, which applies to a diverse number of activities.
speaker_0HOST
And we all seem to understand what we mean when we say the word game.
speaker_0HOST
But when you try to actually define a game, there's really no one aspect or quality which covers every single instance of what we would call a game you can always come up with examples if you're saying well games are this and you can you know okay games are played with other people okay what about solitaire just for example um well just about every other game is played with multiple people but um So there's an overlapping network of connections, which he calls a family resemblance.
Todd FrielHOST
need to be aware mom and dad what's going on at schools
Simon Amaya PriceSOUNDBITE_SPEAKER
and so i my social support network had disappeared i'm disconnected from my body i'm still trying to deal with all of the basically trauma of being the target of homophobic bullying for two years straight in middle school so i joined what was then called the gay straight alliance because i'm like these people will probably get what i've gone through and maybe i can talk about it And instead of talking about homophobia or being gay is cool and okay, instead of that, we would regularly watch videos by this transgender YouTuber called ContraPoints, who is male to female.
Simon Amaya PriceSOUNDBITE_SPEAKER
And this is where I learned about the concept of gender dysphoria and transition and all of these concrete steps.
Simon Amaya PriceSOUNDBITE_SPEAKER
Learned about it.
Ryan GeddieHOST
But they were always further to the left than The New Republic, for instance.
Ryan GeddieHOST
Someone like ContraPoints or something.
Ryan GeddieHOST
Are you familiar with her? She's further to the left than The New Republic.
Ryan GeddieHOST
But there's clearly an audience for that kind of thing on YouTube, surely on other platforms too.
Natalie BruzonHOST
And that's, I believe, where we need to be using discernment.
Ella QuijadaPANELIST
If you guys are into three-hour-long video essays, I'd really recommend Twilight by ContraPoints, and then we can chat about that.
Ella QuijadaPANELIST
But it is such a fun dissection of this conversation.
Ella QuijadaPANELIST
So we can talk about
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