Natalie Wynn

So like I had a more bird's eye view of everything.

There is some of that in the video I mentioned last time, the Twilight video by ContraPoints, sort of goes into that whole Mormon thing, like what's taboo, what's not.

So, again, fantastic video.

You should watch it.

Lindsay Ellis is probably the reason why I started making content.

You got ContraPoints, you got Philosophy Tube.

I'm forgetting somebody, no shade to who I'm forgetting.

And so they're all kind of- Lil Bill?

I will say if anybody gets a chance, one of the things that I thought was really interesting kind of ties into all of the crazy stuff I've got behind me.

There's a channel called ContraPoints and ContraPoints did a three hour podcast.

Video talking about Twilight, but also talking about vampires in fiction and the societal and sociopolitical roles that vampires have kind of had through time and why they become sort of sexualized and and what that exactly that does.

there's some fascinating like power play things and like, wow, I'd never thought about this stuff before, but she makes some really good points.

So I've known, I've known of these projects for a while, and I was very excited for your writings on the masculinity crisis because I think we're stuck in two worlds on this.

And I'm not a huge fan of Natalie Wynn, AKA ContraPoints.

Mm.

Um, in fact, before she was famous, we fa- we somewhat infamously had fights constantly on Facebook.

I don't know, man, you typed it? Yeah, it was a long ass time ago.

I think it was about ContraPoints, but this is currently the Ms. Rachel position as well, ironically enough.

Super basic stuff.

Look, I, I've said it before, um, I think it was about ContraPoints, but maybe it was about Ryan Beard.

I can't remember.

There are so many content creators who didn't say a single damn thing for months and months and months, and then came out and were like, "Actually, both sides are pretty bad." Which, again, remember, remember, I think this is a very fair standard.