Natalie Wexler

So it's almost like they're writing their essay on the plan and then also adding the, like there's a space for analysis and exactly what you said by the time the kid gets to actually writing the piece, they've either one, run out of time, if it's a timed test, and two, it's exhausting to have to transfer all of that.

And I remember I asked this question to Natalie Wexler.

She was...

it was kind of her to get on the phone with me because I was really trying to figure out what's the best way to plan.